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Record 017 · July 26, 2023

Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency

House Oversight and Accountability Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs · United States

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In his testimony, former intelligence official David Grusch stated that he was informed during official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program to which he was denied access. When asked if the U.S. government has recovered bodies from such craft, he replied that 'biologics came with some of these recoveries' and that they were assessed as 'non-human' by people with direct knowledge of the program. Grusch emphasized that his statements were based on information from multiple credible sources with long service records, some of whom provided documentation, and that he had reported concerns through proper channels, including to Inspectors General. The hearing record includes his opening statement and exchanges under oath; other witnesses focused primarily on observed UAP flight characteristics rather than retrieval claims. No physical evidence was presented in the open session, and many details were deferred to classified settings.[[4]](https://www.congress.gov/event/118th-congress/house-event/116282)[[5]](https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/CHRG-118hhrg53022/CHRG-118hhrg53022)

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