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Record 088 · July 26, 2023

Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency

House Oversight and Accountability Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs · United States

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In sworn testimony, former National Reconnaissance Office representative to the UAP Task Force David Grusch stated that he was informed in the course of his official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which he was denied access. When asked by Rep. Nancy Mace whether the government had recovered bodies of pilots from crashed craft, Grusch replied that 'biologics came with some of these recoveries' and that they were 'non-human,' based on the assessment of people with direct knowledge of the program. Grusch emphasized that his testimony was second-hand, derived from interviews with over 40 witnesses who provided information including photographs, official documentation, and classified oral testimony. Other witnesses focused on flight safety and national security implications of UAP encounters but did not address retrieval or biologics claims. The hearing record includes these allegations alongside Pentagon statements that no verifiable information substantiates programs for possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials.

Public file: U.S. House of Representatives - Oversight Committee

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